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		<title>By: willwoods</title>
		<link>http://technocrapy.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/twitters-or-twits/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>willwoods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Martin,
Nice to meet you. Regarding the theft of species you should probably speak to Steve Godwin (working on the OpenLearn project), it was he that told me about this issue and I beleive he has details of what and where this has occurred.

We do need to meet up, hopefulyl that will happen soon. I&#039;m not anti Twitter you understand, I just think it&#039;s not a force for good necessarily, rather it&#039;s a tool and it&#039;s up to us to help define it&#039;s uses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Martin,<br />
Nice to meet you. Regarding the theft of species you should probably speak to Steve Godwin (working on the OpenLearn project), it was he that told me about this issue and I beleive he has details of what and where this has occurred.</p>
<p>We do need to meet up, hopefulyl that will happen soon. I&#8217;m not anti Twitter you understand, I just think it&#8217;s not a force for good necessarily, rather it&#8217;s a tool and it&#8217;s up to us to help define it&#8217;s uses.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Harvey</title>
		<link>http://technocrapy.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/twitters-or-twits/#comment-426</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 11:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Will,
I&#039;ve just started working on the Bio Obs project with Jonathan&#039;s team, no doubt you are one of many people I need to have a chat to.

Re wildlife being dug up or &#039;stolen&#039;, you say &quot;I’ve heard reports of this type of “theft” happening a lot recently.&quot; Would be very interested to know more about this, I&#039;ve often heard the fear expressed that wildlife can be damaged by letting out information about it, but so far I&#039;ve found precious few examples where this has actually happened.

On the other hand, letting people know where rare species are can help get support for protecting them.

Interesting area, would be good to have more evidence on both sides of the argument.

Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Will,<br />
I&#8217;ve just started working on the Bio Obs project with Jonathan&#8217;s team, no doubt you are one of many people I need to have a chat to.</p>
<p>Re wildlife being dug up or &#8217;stolen&#8217;, you say &#8220;I’ve heard reports of this type of “theft” happening a lot recently.&#8221; Would be very interested to know more about this, I&#8217;ve often heard the fear expressed that wildlife can be damaged by letting out information about it, but so far I&#8217;ve found precious few examples where this has actually happened.</p>
<p>On the other hand, letting people know where rare species are can help get support for protecting them.</p>
<p>Interesting area, would be good to have more evidence on both sides of the argument.</p>
<p>Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Rudge</title>
		<link>http://technocrapy.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/twitters-or-twits/#comment-420</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy Rudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 11:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wildlife clearly needs to be protected. Please don&#039;t tell the twitchers about twitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wildlife clearly needs to be protected. Please don&#8217;t tell the twitchers about twitter.</p>
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		<title>By: willwoods</title>
		<link>http://technocrapy.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/twitters-or-twits/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator>willwoods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alan,
Yes I do that all the time (extend my experience to reflect a greater viewpoint) however there must be other people like me, surely!

- Yes I think I&#039;m on the cusp!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alan,<br />
Yes I do that all the time (extend my experience to reflect a greater viewpoint) however there must be other people like me, surely!</p>
<p>- Yes I think I&#8217;m on the cusp!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://technocrapy.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/twitters-or-twits/#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 16:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You sound very much on the leading edge of the well documented Twitter Life Cycle
http://cogdoghouse.wikispaces.com/TwitterCycle

I would be very careful of the pitfall of extending ones singular experience to all; there are more varied uses of Twitter than we can see as individuals. But I do agree with the lack of desire to conference tweet beyond sharing a few URL links/highlights. Running repeated tweets are annoying (but again, that is my singular experience).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You sound very much on the leading edge of the well documented Twitter Life Cycle<br />
<a href="http://cogdoghouse.wikispaces.com/TwitterCycle" rel="nofollow">http://cogdoghouse.wikispaces.com/TwitterCycle</a></p>
<p>I would be very careful of the pitfall of extending ones singular experience to all; there are more varied uses of Twitter than we can see as individuals. But I do agree with the lack of desire to conference tweet beyond sharing a few URL links/highlights. Running repeated tweets are annoying (but again, that is my singular experience).</p>
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		<title>By: willwoods</title>
		<link>http://technocrapy.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/twitters-or-twits/#comment-403</link>
		<dc:creator>willwoods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 15:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all those comments I&#039;ll respond to each in turn
Gill - Good points. I&#039;ll try the RSS feed to google desktop and see if that suits me better.

Laura - Yes, I think my use is too sporadic yet, once I get into it more I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll get addicted.


Juliette - That&#039;s a useful distinction. For example I find this commenting system (in Wordpress) only slightly useful as a way to share because the discussions quickly fizzle out (which is OK I guess as they are not meant to be a full blown debate) but using twitter these types of short exchanges can happen very easily. I find my twitter/facebook presence integration useful and I do use facebook regularly.

Martin
1. A comfort and also a threat if abused. I see it as another method of communicating.

2. Ahh. Well according to my colleague (who will remain nameless) it was on display,but perhaps the story has been exaggerated a little by him. You&#039;ve got my point though and that&#039;s it is an open book. My life isn&#039;t always like that and you know because of the review that we&#039;ve had to be circumspect in what we say on blogs and twitter. I would prefer it otherwise in an ideal world but we haven&#039;t got that luxury yet. Perhaps we never will. I&#039;d like to use blogs and twitter to, for example,brainstorm a reorganisation process and structuring. I think it could be very useful but it would be totally public and open that it would throw the fear of god into senior management and probably not be considered very interesting to the rest of the public. I do think though these new methods of communicating should be used more widely for big complex group problem solving.

3. Nope. It a bit like road rage and phone rage an unfortunate side affect of the way technology has changed our lives. 

I feel like you&#039;re the manifestation of the twitter society so my apologies for picking on you Martin. I see the homeworking thing, and Niki who also is at home alot uses forums to keep in touch with her network of horsey friends. 

In summary I&#039;m just a bit rubbish at it so far and I need some time to set up twitter the way I want it and to get using it properly. I reckon I&#039;ll become a convert within three months. One question - do any of you guys have &quot;twitter down time?&quot; - i.e. an enforced absence? - Matt Riddle (sp) when he was at CARET did some experimentation on the affects of forcing people away from online networks and the results were very interesting. People paced around rooms, became agitated, felt time was running slowly etc.  Watch out for his paper on this (it may be out by now I haven&#039;t checked).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all those comments I&#8217;ll respond to each in turn<br />
Gill &#8211; Good points. I&#8217;ll try the RSS feed to google desktop and see if that suits me better.</p>
<p>Laura &#8211; Yes, I think my use is too sporadic yet, once I get into it more I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll get addicted.</p>
<p>Juliette &#8211; That&#8217;s a useful distinction. For example I find this commenting system (in WordPress) only slightly useful as a way to share because the discussions quickly fizzle out (which is OK I guess as they are not meant to be a full blown debate) but using twitter these types of short exchanges can happen very easily. I find my twitter/facebook presence integration useful and I do use facebook regularly.</p>
<p>Martin<br />
1. A comfort and also a threat if abused. I see it as another method of communicating.</p>
<p>2. Ahh. Well according to my colleague (who will remain nameless) it was on display,but perhaps the story has been exaggerated a little by him. You&#8217;ve got my point though and that&#8217;s it is an open book. My life isn&#8217;t always like that and you know because of the review that we&#8217;ve had to be circumspect in what we say on blogs and twitter. I would prefer it otherwise in an ideal world but we haven&#8217;t got that luxury yet. Perhaps we never will. I&#8217;d like to use blogs and twitter to, for example,brainstorm a reorganisation process and structuring. I think it could be very useful but it would be totally public and open that it would throw the fear of god into senior management and probably not be considered very interesting to the rest of the public. I do think though these new methods of communicating should be used more widely for big complex group problem solving.</p>
<p>3. Nope. It a bit like road rage and phone rage an unfortunate side affect of the way technology has changed our lives. </p>
<p>I feel like you&#8217;re the manifestation of the twitter society so my apologies for picking on you Martin. I see the homeworking thing, and Niki who also is at home alot uses forums to keep in touch with her network of horsey friends. </p>
<p>In summary I&#8217;m just a bit rubbish at it so far and I need some time to set up twitter the way I want it and to get using it properly. I reckon I&#8217;ll become a convert within three months. One question &#8211; do any of you guys have &#8220;twitter down time?&#8221; &#8211; i.e. an enforced absence? &#8211; Matt Riddle (sp) when he was at CARET did some experimentation on the affects of forcing people away from online networks and the results were very interesting. People paced around rooms, became agitated, felt time was running slowly etc.  Watch out for his paper on this (it may be out by now I haven&#8217;t checked).</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://technocrapy.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/twitters-or-twits/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 12:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To take your points in order Will:
1) I think these stories of Twitter in a crisis are interesting, but not really the _point_ of Twitter. Rather what they illustrate is how important a person&#039;s network is to them.
2) I didn&#039;t actually have the tweet in question displayed (I know which one you mean). However, there is a more general point - Twitter is more out in the open, it&#039;s not the same as FB friends update where it is more closed, so one should be careful what you say about colleagues.
3) Not sure there&#039;s much you can do about this.

As for being addicted to Twittercrack - maybe, but then I work at home, so it eats up less time than having a lunch and coffee with people everyday, and it makes me feel connected to the workplace. I fully accept that today it&#039;s Twitter and tomorrow it&#039;s something else, but what all of these do is build on the network, and I may be addicted to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To take your points in order Will:<br />
1) I think these stories of Twitter in a crisis are interesting, but not really the _point_ of Twitter. Rather what they illustrate is how important a person&#8217;s network is to them.<br />
2) I didn&#8217;t actually have the tweet in question displayed (I know which one you mean). However, there is a more general point &#8211; Twitter is more out in the open, it&#8217;s not the same as FB friends update where it is more closed, so one should be careful what you say about colleagues.<br />
3) Not sure there&#8217;s much you can do about this.</p>
<p>As for being addicted to Twittercrack &#8211; maybe, but then I work at home, so it eats up less time than having a lunch and coffee with people everyday, and it makes me feel connected to the workplace. I fully accept that today it&#8217;s Twitter and tomorrow it&#8217;s something else, but what all of these do is build on the network, and I may be addicted to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Juliette</title>
		<link>http://technocrapy.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/twitters-or-twits/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>Juliette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 12:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post sums up exactly how I felt about twitter a few months ago, but now I&#039;m a convert. I think I hadn&#039;t realised that it&#039;s really about talking to other people, not talking about what you&#039;re doing. One of the things that has also surprised me is that it doesn&#039;t feel like a time drain as I never spend longer thinking about what to say than the time it takes me to type it (though that might show in my tweets!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post sums up exactly how I felt about twitter a few months ago, but now I&#8217;m a convert. I think I hadn&#8217;t realised that it&#8217;s really about talking to other people, not talking about what you&#8217;re doing. One of the things that has also surprised me is that it doesn&#8217;t feel like a time drain as I never spend longer thinking about what to say than the time it takes me to type it (though that might show in my tweets!)</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://technocrapy.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/twitters-or-twits/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 12:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I consider myself a social tweeter, in the same way some people are social smokers or drinkers. I can take or leave it and enjoy it while I&#039;m there. In certain situations, my use becomes habitual (quiet days, conferences). Really enjoyed this post, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I consider myself a social tweeter, in the same way some people are social smokers or drinkers. I can take or leave it and enjoy it while I&#8217;m there. In certain situations, my use becomes habitual (quiet days, conferences). Really enjoyed this post, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Gill</title>
		<link>http://technocrapy.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/twitters-or-twits/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your point 2 had be chuckling :) However I think it&#039;s best that these things are out in the open. I&#039;ve sat fthrough too many boring presentations. Both blogs and tweets are simply honest representations of peoples thoughts.

I wonder if I&#039;m a twitter addict. I became a great fan of Facebook statuses originally. I RSS fed them to my google sidebar so I could see them as they were updated. I think this has transferred to twitter because I find it gives me a wider perspective that FB where only my &quot;friends&quot; were represented. Initially I found it rather odd to have total strangers start to follow me on Twitter. But then somebody pointed out that this was no different to strangers following my blog entries, except that I could see who they were. I&#039;ve found that often these strangers are interesting - often from other countries, sometimes with websites or blogs that are worth following.

I like having some of the tweets sent through to my mobile device. Gives me something to read and smile at in a waiting room or on a bus or train. 

For me twitter is two things. One is a nice way to keep up with people I know. Another is to have a small level of contact with people I don&#039;t know. 

So am I a twitter addict :) ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your point 2 had be chuckling <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  However I think it&#8217;s best that these things are out in the open. I&#8217;ve sat fthrough too many boring presentations. Both blogs and tweets are simply honest representations of peoples thoughts.</p>
<p>I wonder if I&#8217;m a twitter addict. I became a great fan of Facebook statuses originally. I RSS fed them to my google sidebar so I could see them as they were updated. I think this has transferred to twitter because I find it gives me a wider perspective that FB where only my &#8220;friends&#8221; were represented. Initially I found it rather odd to have total strangers start to follow me on Twitter. But then somebody pointed out that this was no different to strangers following my blog entries, except that I could see who they were. I&#8217;ve found that often these strangers are interesting &#8211; often from other countries, sometimes with websites or blogs that are worth following.</p>
<p>I like having some of the tweets sent through to my mobile device. Gives me something to read and smile at in a waiting room or on a bus or train. </p>
<p>For me twitter is two things. One is a nice way to keep up with people I know. Another is to have a small level of contact with people I don&#8217;t know. </p>
<p>So am I a twitter addict <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ?</p>
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